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                       ETAC ban anyone?
    The European TeamFortress Admin Council has decided to ban yours truly.
    The ban states that the #bc2 log shows information to me using interp(read: interp, no value specified) one map versus the clan BAD on 11-5-2003 (reference: http://www.body-count.org/results.php?action=details&warid=666 ). The ban also states that I admitted to using interp. So to sum it up: My entire ban happened on IRC/forums, without any TFC coming in the picture.

    Golden boy from Belgium, Fuse!

    Here is where the story starts. A player/admin whom I?ve not had much contact with, and vice versa. What I do know is that he always had a grudge for my former clan UE. This on itself proves nothing of course, but it shows there?s a history here.

    Damn BAD lost again!

    The #bc2 logs were released! Of course good reading for most people. This was also the case for Fuse. But what did the logs show? Eagle & Mick interped against BAD. Mind you, Fuse was in BAD at that time, so that takes care of his impartial status.
    But what appears to be the case? None other than Fuse started the ETAC thread/discussion to ban me.

    Twisted Truth

    As soon as I heard this was the case, I contacted Fuse on IRC. The first thing I said was this: ?ik ga nie ontkennen dat ik interp 1 helft gebruikt heb zeker niet.? Translated: ?I am not going to deny that I used interp for 1 half for sure? (this sentence is a bit twisted, you can interpret it in more ways, Dutch and English.) Clearly Fuse interpreted this sentence as an admittance.
    This was not the case though, I merely said that so the conversation would not be about that (I also explained to Fuse why I said ?interp for 1 half,? it was to make sure we were on the same page about it.)

    Ehm Eagle? SO?

    What we?ve got here is an IRC log from BladeSpirit who was kicked from/left BC, and a so called admittance to a not so very impartial admin. Got credibility?
    Did ETAC think about this? About how that would look, about how solid their case would be? Apparently not. ETAC is supposed to be an impartial ?admin council,? yet the only one I talked to was Fuse.

    Wrap it up, will you

    A lot of what I wanted/want to say has not been said yet. But making this to long of a story will not benefit anyone. To conclude this then: I want to say that I haven?t used interp since default was mandatory. EVEN though it is designed to compensate for packet loss(you will not know until you?ve played with this connection yourself.) I am not judging ETAC for bringing in a default interp rule, I am judging them for how they went about this case. If you see how hard it was for pilsy to get banned due to lack of evidence, and how easy I am banned? Please?? I am not looking for an unban either (where it is fair, but would harm credibility of ETAC.) I would like to see some support though from people, just to know that I?ve been heard.

    Thanks for your interest,

    Eagle
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    OrTz at 31.07.2003 (03:17:05) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    there are 2 ways of admining i guess, potz way and the thinkingunderstanding way...


    OrTz at 31.07.2003 (03:18:30) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    admin in general should think of himself as a father, not as sadam, especially ETAC...


    rizz at 31.07.2003 (10:09:26) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    simple: interp is banned -> so dont use interp


    saltz at 31.07.2003 (10:25:29) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Thanks for that captain obvious, but where is the proof that Eagle used interp?


    DanS at 31.07.2003 (10:30:07) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    What a mess..

    lol @ mir so true.


    Daz at 31.07.2003 (10:58:38) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Not long till the new season DanS :D


    Eagle at 31.07.2003 (11:19:49) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    I dont care about being banned cuz I dont have to play TFC anyway. What I do care about is how the ban came to be. Can u try and focus on that for a moment?


    fusie at 31.07.2003 (12:36:26) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    when bk was banned on evidence found on their priv forum, community was all over them

    when 1 bc player gets banned (should have been at least 2 btw) then its ETAC going mad, fuse beeing a dick, etc

    gfg logic.


    saltz at 31.07.2003 (12:43:03) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    But you see fuse, there is a difference between the two incidents. The BK player got caught, flagged by anti-cheat, demos recorded and released. Eagle has been banned based on a few lines said in IRC. Do you see? Can you understand that this difference is quite substantial?

    Show me ETAC-plugin logging Eagle with interp. Show me a demo of him interping. Show me the evidence that makes it absolutely certain that he interped. Then, I will understand why he is banned, and applaud ETAC.


    fusie at 31.07.2003 (12:54:11) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    no actually ur wrong...
    the bk player got flagged and banned ... after that they "joked", as they claim theirselves and like you are doing now, what name he would use in leagues now ... the punishement that followed (eg banning bk cl and even the entire clan in some leagues) was a direct result of log evidence alone


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