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                       ETAC ban anyone?
    The European TeamFortress Admin Council has decided to ban yours truly.
    The ban states that the #bc2 log shows information to me using interp(read: interp, no value specified) one map versus the clan BAD on 11-5-2003 (reference: http://www.body-count.org/results.php?action=details&warid=666 ). The ban also states that I admitted to using interp. So to sum it up: My entire ban happened on IRC/forums, without any TFC coming in the picture.

    Golden boy from Belgium, Fuse!

    Here is where the story starts. A player/admin whom I?ve not had much contact with, and vice versa. What I do know is that he always had a grudge for my former clan UE. This on itself proves nothing of course, but it shows there?s a history here.

    Damn BAD lost again!

    The #bc2 logs were released! Of course good reading for most people. This was also the case for Fuse. But what did the logs show? Eagle & Mick interped against BAD. Mind you, Fuse was in BAD at that time, so that takes care of his impartial status.
    But what appears to be the case? None other than Fuse started the ETAC thread/discussion to ban me.

    Twisted Truth

    As soon as I heard this was the case, I contacted Fuse on IRC. The first thing I said was this: ?ik ga nie ontkennen dat ik interp 1 helft gebruikt heb zeker niet.? Translated: ?I am not going to deny that I used interp for 1 half for sure? (this sentence is a bit twisted, you can interpret it in more ways, Dutch and English.) Clearly Fuse interpreted this sentence as an admittance.
    This was not the case though, I merely said that so the conversation would not be about that (I also explained to Fuse why I said ?interp for 1 half,? it was to make sure we were on the same page about it.)

    Ehm Eagle? SO?

    What we?ve got here is an IRC log from BladeSpirit who was kicked from/left BC, and a so called admittance to a not so very impartial admin. Got credibility?
    Did ETAC think about this? About how that would look, about how solid their case would be? Apparently not. ETAC is supposed to be an impartial ?admin council,? yet the only one I talked to was Fuse.

    Wrap it up, will you

    A lot of what I wanted/want to say has not been said yet. But making this to long of a story will not benefit anyone. To conclude this then: I want to say that I haven?t used interp since default was mandatory. EVEN though it is designed to compensate for packet loss(you will not know until you?ve played with this connection yourself.) I am not judging ETAC for bringing in a default interp rule, I am judging them for how they went about this case. If you see how hard it was for pilsy to get banned due to lack of evidence, and how easy I am banned? Please?? I am not looking for an unban either (where it is fair, but would harm credibility of ETAC.) I would like to see some support though from people, just to know that I?ve been heard.

    Thanks for your interest,

    Eagle
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    Uhm at 15.08.2003 (16:10:52) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Stab at 01.08.2003 (13:26:46) Quote |
    No, inz got banned because he told an admin to fuck off. lol :E


    How is this a bad thing :P


    Com$ at 16.08.2003 (11:45:51) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    In the States we would call ETACs evidence heresay, i.e. it is evidence based on the reports of others rather than the first-hand knowledge of a witness. This type of evidence is inadmissible in court, primarily because people would be wrongly convicted because of rumors or speech taken out of context.

    ETAC has no case, Eagle is acquitted.


    saltz at 16.08.2003 (13:38:10) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Same as british courts then. Unfortunately however this is ETAC, where applying brains is also a criminal offence.


    fusie at 20.08.2003 (12:03:34) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    as i would say, get ur head out of ur ass and smell reality instead of fucking over details


    mcNugget at 20.08.2003 (13:09:27) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    I cant really see how interp is a major issue in TFC. Yes, I know it is lame to change all those config commands in a vain and desperate attempt to survive a few more hits, but in the case of interp the TFC class models are too big for it to make a difference. This command does not really effect the style of play in TFC clan games - it is an issue in DoD and CS since those mods require a lot more sneaking around and accurate shooting. I dont know if TFC servers have started using the WWCL config tool yet, but if there are people so desperate to pin these accusations on others then maybe they should start doing so to prove whether or not some is configging :/


    fusie at 22.08.2003 (12:58:28) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    does it make a diffrence? yes
    does it make a big diffrence? play vs an interping hw and then come back
    is it a serious offence? no, hence the 1 month ban



    Earl at 23.08.2003 (16:11:30) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Thats why BAD wanted to play semi vs DW on THEIR server with THEIR sparky config using 2 hws ?


    Afx at 23.08.2003 (20:13:58) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    STOP TALKING NOW, Eagle will be unbanned by time u all stfu...thats in 3 days anyway i think ;E


    fusie at 24.08.2003 (16:42:18) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    you have watched too many x-files episodes, earl.


    Earl at 24.08.2003 (20:16:56) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    I dislike x-files, but i talked to lestat and epsy.


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