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                       ETAC ban anyone?
    The European TeamFortress Admin Council has decided to ban yours truly.
    The ban states that the #bc2 log shows information to me using interp(read: interp, no value specified) one map versus the clan BAD on 11-5-2003 (reference: http://www.body-count.org/results.php?action=details&warid=666 ). The ban also states that I admitted to using interp. So to sum it up: My entire ban happened on IRC/forums, without any TFC coming in the picture.

    Golden boy from Belgium, Fuse!

    Here is where the story starts. A player/admin whom I?ve not had much contact with, and vice versa. What I do know is that he always had a grudge for my former clan UE. This on itself proves nothing of course, but it shows there?s a history here.

    Damn BAD lost again!

    The #bc2 logs were released! Of course good reading for most people. This was also the case for Fuse. But what did the logs show? Eagle & Mick interped against BAD. Mind you, Fuse was in BAD at that time, so that takes care of his impartial status.
    But what appears to be the case? None other than Fuse started the ETAC thread/discussion to ban me.

    Twisted Truth

    As soon as I heard this was the case, I contacted Fuse on IRC. The first thing I said was this: ?ik ga nie ontkennen dat ik interp 1 helft gebruikt heb zeker niet.? Translated: ?I am not going to deny that I used interp for 1 half for sure? (this sentence is a bit twisted, you can interpret it in more ways, Dutch and English.) Clearly Fuse interpreted this sentence as an admittance.
    This was not the case though, I merely said that so the conversation would not be about that (I also explained to Fuse why I said ?interp for 1 half,? it was to make sure we were on the same page about it.)

    Ehm Eagle? SO?

    What we?ve got here is an IRC log from BladeSpirit who was kicked from/left BC, and a so called admittance to a not so very impartial admin. Got credibility?
    Did ETAC think about this? About how that would look, about how solid their case would be? Apparently not. ETAC is supposed to be an impartial ?admin council,? yet the only one I talked to was Fuse.

    Wrap it up, will you

    A lot of what I wanted/want to say has not been said yet. But making this to long of a story will not benefit anyone. To conclude this then: I want to say that I haven?t used interp since default was mandatory. EVEN though it is designed to compensate for packet loss(you will not know until you?ve played with this connection yourself.) I am not judging ETAC for bringing in a default interp rule, I am judging them for how they went about this case. If you see how hard it was for pilsy to get banned due to lack of evidence, and how easy I am banned? Please?? I am not looking for an unban either (where it is fair, but would harm credibility of ETAC.) I would like to see some support though from people, just to know that I?ve been heard.

    Thanks for your interest,

    Eagle
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    TeOch at 30.07.2003 (14:44:01) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    UE= foocking interp looserz!

    (fuse u blowz)


    fusie at 30.07.2003 (14:50:32) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    love reading comments like the on earl made... sure i decided the whole thing myself without any support from the admins ... rofl ignorance is bliss :x


    Earl at 30.07.2003 (15:07:57) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Yes ignorance is bliss, sorry cba reading all the 48916 posts on f2c forum, but what i seen is that you, and Steff, and rebo, told that both Eagle and Afx admitted the interp.

    So now what is a bit weird is that i cannot find either of them admitting it on the forum. Maybe you have any problem with english, you cannot understand it ? If this case is so clear why does not Afx admit it on f2c forum ?

    And why did only 2 leagues want to ban Mata ? Maybe he has been a bit more clear with you, with his famous direct speaking. And why dont you tell anything about Aphextwin ? (oh yes he is 187 and Steff as well).

    There is a liar somewhere, and i am very sorry fuse if i prefer to believe Afx than you.


    ! at 30.07.2003 (15:24:08) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    ITS GOOD THEY BAN EVEN THIS KIND OF PLAYERS! INTERP=BANNED SO DONT USE IT?!


    [SSK]Raven at 30.07.2003 (15:39:41) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Its pretty hard to judge on Eagle his explanation here, but if this ban is submitted due to what u said on irc and without any real other proof, its a pretty thin ban imo.
    On the other hand, I know Fuse and hes allways been fair to me and others as far as I know.
    Since there seems to be some personal grudge and emotions involved, it might be best that another ETAC member would have handled this case.

    my 2 cents


    SirFrag at 30.07.2003 (16:23:13) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    bit lame to ban him for confessions in _PRIVATE_ logs from _IRC_ some m0ng gave out...


    fusie at 30.07.2003 (16:27:23) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    i can upload the logs with Eagle (dutch) and Afx if u want earl so u can see and interpret it yourself ... and raven as much as Eagle tries to make it look, i didnt decide on this single handedly... entire ETAC voted on it (meaning 9 leagues and representing the voice of about 25-30ish admins), thank you


    fusie at 30.07.2003 (16:29:20) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    oh and sirfrag, it started with the bc priv logs where Eagle said he interped... when i confronted him with that, he firstly admitted it (the way me and every other single admin interpreted it). After some hours he told me he ment something else, which also nobody believed


    Earl at 30.07.2003 (16:29:27) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Yeah, why not doing so ?

    And you did not answer my other question ;)


    Grayfox at 30.07.2003 (16:37:21) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    I admit, I used interp, gonna ban me now?


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