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                       ETAC ban anyone?
    The European TeamFortress Admin Council has decided to ban yours truly.
    The ban states that the #bc2 log shows information to me using interp(read: interp, no value specified) one map versus the clan BAD on 11-5-2003 (reference: http://www.body-count.org/results.php?action=details&warid=666 ). The ban also states that I admitted to using interp. So to sum it up: My entire ban happened on IRC/forums, without any TFC coming in the picture.

    Golden boy from Belgium, Fuse!

    Here is where the story starts. A player/admin whom I?ve not had much contact with, and vice versa. What I do know is that he always had a grudge for my former clan UE. This on itself proves nothing of course, but it shows there?s a history here.

    Damn BAD lost again!

    The #bc2 logs were released! Of course good reading for most people. This was also the case for Fuse. But what did the logs show? Eagle & Mick interped against BAD. Mind you, Fuse was in BAD at that time, so that takes care of his impartial status.
    But what appears to be the case? None other than Fuse started the ETAC thread/discussion to ban me.

    Twisted Truth

    As soon as I heard this was the case, I contacted Fuse on IRC. The first thing I said was this: ?ik ga nie ontkennen dat ik interp 1 helft gebruikt heb zeker niet.? Translated: ?I am not going to deny that I used interp for 1 half for sure? (this sentence is a bit twisted, you can interpret it in more ways, Dutch and English.) Clearly Fuse interpreted this sentence as an admittance.
    This was not the case though, I merely said that so the conversation would not be about that (I also explained to Fuse why I said ?interp for 1 half,? it was to make sure we were on the same page about it.)

    Ehm Eagle? SO?

    What we?ve got here is an IRC log from BladeSpirit who was kicked from/left BC, and a so called admittance to a not so very impartial admin. Got credibility?
    Did ETAC think about this? About how that would look, about how solid their case would be? Apparently not. ETAC is supposed to be an impartial ?admin council,? yet the only one I talked to was Fuse.

    Wrap it up, will you

    A lot of what I wanted/want to say has not been said yet. But making this to long of a story will not benefit anyone. To conclude this then: I want to say that I haven?t used interp since default was mandatory. EVEN though it is designed to compensate for packet loss(you will not know until you?ve played with this connection yourself.) I am not judging ETAC for bringing in a default interp rule, I am judging them for how they went about this case. If you see how hard it was for pilsy to get banned due to lack of evidence, and how easy I am banned? Please?? I am not looking for an unban either (where it is fair, but would harm credibility of ETAC.) I would like to see some support though from people, just to know that I?ve been heard.

    Thanks for your interest,

    Eagle
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    saltz at 31.07.2003 (13:34:41) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    FFS THIS FUCKING SITE IS SO GAY EATING EVERYTHING BECAUSE I USE APOSTROPHES


    Ok a shortened version. In the BK case there was evidence that a player had been caught cheating. In Eagles case there is nothing of the sort. The ban is based entirely on an assumption that your opinion must be correct. Therefore, this ban is fucking ridiculous.


    Nemesis at 31.07.2003 (14:14:43) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    what fuse means is that the BK player was indeed banned on evidence (demos etc) however, the CLAN BK-034 getting banned from Vitality was based solely based on logs, their private forums logs


    DanS at 31.07.2003 (15:14:51) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    daz... wont be long before your relegated then :P


    saltz at 31.07.2003 (15:29:59) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    How come BK were not banned ETAC wide then, as Eagle is?


    Memst3rtjE at 31.07.2003 (15:39:52) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Just read the log FuSe posted , irc log him talking with Eagle and Afx and it seems that Eagles ban is fair to me, he used interp in a official game and thats illegal.


    TheBeuler at 31.07.2003 (17:13:27) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    In dubio pro reo :/

    MAUL!


    Test at 31.07.2003 (18:09:26) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    its ok your in bc


    Mercutio at 31.07.2003 (19:20:39) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Where exactly is the log of Eagle admitting to using a banned ex_interp value?
    And why did the other person to be banned from CTFCL only get a ban for 1 week and Eagle gets a 4 week ban?
    [ Edited by Mercutio at 31 Jul, 2003 (19:22:15) ]
    [ Edited by Mercutio at 31 Jul, 2003 (19:26:31) ]


    Nig at 31.07.2003 (20:19:11) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    All etac bans ramp up over time merc, in a while interp will probably be a perm ban, gives the rules a "settling in" period.

    Also an admission of guilt along with backup evidence is usually enough to convict someone, admitting guilt in real life leads to shorter sentences, in this case it will probably mean that Eagle can sleep with a clearer conscience when he gets back to playing after his ban for cheating. (better than for evidence to come out later ). Also, imo, the ban should have been for longer, anakam got banned for alot longer for alot less, and it almost folded bunker034, i doubt this will affect BC much at all, apart from the hit on rep. Lets just hope you can refrain from encouraging cheating in future ;)


    Mercutio at 31.07.2003 (20:36:00) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    Well since the server we were due to play 187 on had sparkys installed it was obviously a joke but to do with something we often joke about (a player infact) but lets hope you can refrain from reading priv chan logs in the future ;)


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