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                       ETAC ban anyone?
    The European TeamFortress Admin Council has decided to ban yours truly.
    The ban states that the #bc2 log shows information to me using interp(read: interp, no value specified) one map versus the clan BAD on 11-5-2003 (reference: http://www.body-count.org/results.php?action=details&warid=666 ). The ban also states that I admitted to using interp. So to sum it up: My entire ban happened on IRC/forums, without any TFC coming in the picture.

    Golden boy from Belgium, Fuse!

    Here is where the story starts. A player/admin whom I?ve not had much contact with, and vice versa. What I do know is that he always had a grudge for my former clan UE. This on itself proves nothing of course, but it shows there?s a history here.

    Damn BAD lost again!

    The #bc2 logs were released! Of course good reading for most people. This was also the case for Fuse. But what did the logs show? Eagle & Mick interped against BAD. Mind you, Fuse was in BAD at that time, so that takes care of his impartial status.
    But what appears to be the case? None other than Fuse started the ETAC thread/discussion to ban me.

    Twisted Truth

    As soon as I heard this was the case, I contacted Fuse on IRC. The first thing I said was this: ?ik ga nie ontkennen dat ik interp 1 helft gebruikt heb zeker niet.? Translated: ?I am not going to deny that I used interp for 1 half for sure? (this sentence is a bit twisted, you can interpret it in more ways, Dutch and English.) Clearly Fuse interpreted this sentence as an admittance.
    This was not the case though, I merely said that so the conversation would not be about that (I also explained to Fuse why I said ?interp for 1 half,? it was to make sure we were on the same page about it.)

    Ehm Eagle? SO?

    What we?ve got here is an IRC log from BladeSpirit who was kicked from/left BC, and a so called admittance to a not so very impartial admin. Got credibility?
    Did ETAC think about this? About how that would look, about how solid their case would be? Apparently not. ETAC is supposed to be an impartial ?admin council,? yet the only one I talked to was Fuse.

    Wrap it up, will you

    A lot of what I wanted/want to say has not been said yet. But making this to long of a story will not benefit anyone. To conclude this then: I want to say that I haven?t used interp since default was mandatory. EVEN though it is designed to compensate for packet loss(you will not know until you?ve played with this connection yourself.) I am not judging ETAC for bringing in a default interp rule, I am judging them for how they went about this case. If you see how hard it was for pilsy to get banned due to lack of evidence, and how easy I am banned? Please?? I am not looking for an unban either (where it is fair, but would harm credibility of ETAC.) I would like to see some support though from people, just to know that I?ve been heard.

    Thanks for your interest,

    Eagle
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    fusie at 30.07.2003 (16:55:52) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    saltz:
    Well for me its pretty damn easy: nor the way the information reaches you (through BS/sil), nor the form its in (logs) matter. The only thing that matters is the content, which has been authenticated by your own clanmates... And if admitting in private channel right after the war you did interp AGAINST YOUR OWN CLANM8S, then afterwards admit it to me in a pm (i dont care what you say about that sentence Eagle, ask any dutch speaking person and they will have the same oppinion as i do about it) isnt enough evidence, then i dont know.


    the logs:
    http://users.pandora.be/fusie/TFC/eagleafx.txt

    and answer to second question: i dont want to answer that question because i myself voted for the ban. however the arguement most used was sometheing in the lines of Eagle having said it to me in pm and Mata didnt or something :f


    fusie at 30.07.2003 (16:56:49) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    and grayfox ur too stupid so im not gonna bother


    nen belg at 30.07.2003 (17:11:29) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    eagle: Golden boy from Belgium, Fuse!
    mmm, boertig Eagle, boertig. dacht da die hersenloze opmerkingen enkel in voetbal voorkwamen ==> Holland vs Rode Duivels. is beetje een sneer voor de belgen, nee? ow and my humble opinion...correct ban


    saltz at 30.07.2003 (17:16:06) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    [14:54] <Afx> Eagle always gets a bit hot headed and he said as soon as he stopped using interp that his ssg had gone shit cos of hisploss
    [14:55] <Afx> its still banned tho so he shouldnt ever of used it but i think in that one map he got pissed off


    Call me biased here but is it me or is that like totally not a confession!?


    Earl at 30.07.2003 (17:24:24) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    [22:13] <Afx> fusie i never said if Eagle interped or not...i have no idea, and in irc ppl say things u never know if theyt mean them or not....All this laugh at them talking about interping stuff is bullshit, I always told ppl to stop using it as soon as etac ruling came in and they did

    So what ? Is it a confession ?

    And for the log with Eagle, i cannot speak dutch ;/


    fusie at 30.07.2003 (17:24:41) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    and grayfox ur too stupid so im not gonna bother


    -Blade- at 30.07.2003 (18:00:41) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    As I read the sentence in dutch from Eagle I understand that he obviously admits that he cheated 1 map. When the player in question admits that he has cheated then why is there a need for proof? And perhaps you should speek to other etac members because you all seem to be missing a lot of info from their side.


    lp at 30.07.2003 (18:19:08) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    hacker Eagle :P


    fusie at 30.07.2003 (18:33:00) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    look, Eagle made a mistake and is now paying the time for it. yes there might be some players that uses some extra tweaks you dont know, but im 100% sure both Mata and Eagle have a lot more talent then your average div-x player

    and i like to believe its only a small fraction that abuses bugs on regular basis


    Nemesis at 30.07.2003 (21:23:20) Quote | IP Logged | Edit | Delete
    as i allready said on f2c forums, no matter what if u interped or not, the grounds this ban is based on are very very shady to say the least
    BG ETAC :p


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